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Judge Ian Trigger: delivering judgement on us all PDF Print E-mail
Written by Uponnothing   
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 11:07
I had never heard of Judge Ian Trigger until I stumbled upon his claims on the Daily Mail website today: 'Hundreds of thousands of migrants here for handouts, says senior judge'. Let's not beat around the proverbial here, Judge Ian Trigger is talking out of his arse and should learn to pass judgment on individual cases, not society, because he clearly does not have the intellectual capacity to conceptualize the bigger picture. As he gave a two-year jail sentence to a Jamaican drug minder - who disappeared from the notice of immigration authorities after claiming asylum - he made the following claims:

'Your case illustrates all too clearly the completely lax immigration policy that exists and has existed over recent years.'

People like you, and there are literally hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people like you, come to these shores to avail themselves of the generous welfare benefits that exist here.

'In the past ten years the national debt of this country has risen to extraordinary heights, largely because central Government has wasted billions of pounds. Much of that has been wasted on welfare payments.

'For every £1 that the decent citizen, who is hard-working, pays in taxes, nearly 10 per cent goes on servicing that national debt. That is twice the amount it was in 1997 when this Government came to power.'

 

Where to start? This is ultimate Daily Mail wank fodder, a person in authority basically ranting as if he had had his body snatched by Richard Littlejohn or 'Mad' Melanie Phillips. For starters, people who arrive in the UK are not entitled to benefits, housing or anything else, so let's please stop claiming that they are. Not to mention that this whole 'immigration is lax' idea is utter bullshit, it has never been harder to get into the UK. Furthermore, he arrived in the UK legally, he was only arrested when his Visa run out and then 'disappeared from the radar of the authorities', meaning presumably that he would not have been getting any benefits whatsoever. Subsequently, he turned to crime to support himself.

Quite why a Judge - who is presumably intelligent - sees fit to bring his own personal misconceptions into the public arena using phrases like 'you people' and 'there are literally hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people like you' is beyond me. For those people who claim that 'PC has gone mad' this is an example of just what Political Correctness is fighting against, idiots like Judge Ian Trigger who cannot act professionally. Instead they think it is perfectly acceptable to stir up hatred towards immigrants with ill-informed rants like this.

Political Correctness would argue that he should perhaps get his facts straight before engaging in such a rant, and might want to consider the racial implications of phrases like 'you people'. However, I think Judge Ian Trigger represents a deeper ignorance that is shared and promoted by the Daily Mail, you can't argue against such assertions because they are based on prejudice and ignorance, not logical conclusions. Does Judge Ian Trigger give us any evidence or make his sources for his assertions known? Of course not, but neither does the Daily Mail and mainstream media. Instead they all engage with invented numbers ('hundreds and hundreds of thousands') and general slurs ('people like you') as well as repeating the lie that immigrants are entitled to benefits upon arrival. They are not, I cannot stress this enough.

A quick Google search shows that Judge Ian Trigger is used to making sweeping generalisations based upon individual cases: 'Top judge attacks 'feral' yobs in a courtroom tirade as Cameron calls for national service'. His rant:

 

'Parliament and its woeful and indeed dreadful concentration on rights forgets duties and responsibilities...

We are living in a society which is bedevilled by wild feral youths such as you.

Before we plunge into even greater violence at the hands of lawless and irresponsible youths it is time for us to address the problem...

It is time for the public not to criticise the police but support them so that wild youths like you are brought to justice.

And it is time for Left-wing intellectuals and well-meaning do-gooders to abandon their obsession and concentrate on the obligations and responsibilities which we all owe each other.'

 

Again, the case was horrific, but Judge Ian Trigger does not have the intellectual capacity to draw any conclusions other than that this is a sign that the whole of the UK has been plunged into anarchy - 'bedevilled by wild feral youths'. Again, with his attack on young people, 'left-wing intellectuals' etc he is providing perfect Daily Mail material. Subsequently, just like the Daily Mail, his rants are ill-informed, prejudiced and fearful.

Someone should tell Judge Ian Trigger that his job is to pass judgement on the individuals placed in front of him, not to pass judgement on the whole of society. I wonder how many of us in full-time employment would avoid a disciplinary for these kind of rants? If, for example, I had to deal with a student who was behaving badly, would it be appropriate for me to rant in front of all students that I thought 'this pupil' was just one of literally hundreds of thousands of feral youths that roam the streets as a result of 'PC-human-rights-New-Labour-gone-mad' system? I imagine it would be seen as entirely unprofessional, as we're supposed to hang our prejudices at the door when we enter our place of work.

Judge Ian Trigger seems to be getting quite a high profile from unleashing his own ill-informed prejudices in his place of work, and the Daily Mail is only too happy to help legitimise the misconceptions of its readers by repeating them.

The Daily Express provides the perfect example of ignorance breeding ignorance: 'FOREIGN SPONGERS SCANDAL, BY JUDGE'. An article which is endorsed by Damien Green - wanker - 'The judge is right' and naturally Sir Andrew Green - utter, utter turd - 'He is expressing a sense of frustration which is very widely felt among the public. And it is courageous of him to do so'. The truth, well that just doesn't matter when you need only print those who share your ignorance.

 
Comments (21)
21 Wednesday, 17 March 2010 04:23
Sign my petition...

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Evidence/

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to install
tamper-proof recording of all evidence and make immediate
copies available to all parties in a case for a nominal fee.

In my experience, a single digital recording is made to the
Judge's pc. In many cases the judge has access to this digital
file after an application for an Appeal has been made, which
may show them in a bad light. In this day and age it would be a
very simple technical and procedural matter to remove the
possibility of tampering with the spoken evidence BEFORE it is
sent off to a licensed transcription agent - either by a
simultaneous recording to a 'black box' or a copy being made
and signed off by all parties at the close of the Hearing.

In addition, an immediate electronic copy of the file could be
distributed to all parties to reduce, at least, any
disagreement about the content of an order which is not written
and agreed directly afterwards. So saving further costs.
20 Friday, 14 August 2009 13:04
http://www.judicialcomplaints.gov.uk/index.htm

From the site:
'The Office for Judicial Complaints (OJC) will look into any complaint about the personal conduct of a judge, member of small tribunal or coroner.
Examples of personal misconduct would be the use of insulting, racist or sexist language.'
19 Friday, 07 August 2009 12:22
...you should know that the Home Office is run by the NuLabLiebourCon machine and so anything they say about immigration is obviously not to be trusted...

Especially by people who use 'British' in their screen-name!

(Good find on the stats tho - will keep that for reference!)
@British Bastion

'I believe from what I've read in the papers' doesn't count as evidence. Here's why:

Here is a link to the most recent set of figures I can find. They're from the Home Office.

They show that 73% of the prison population is white, and the number of ethnic minorites make up less than a third of the total you've estimated from reading the papers.

Try again. (Unless you were joking).
17 Thursday, 06 August 2009 19:25
I believe from what I read in the papers that the prison population is made up of about 70 percent ethnics, that's about 58,000. Times that by the £2000 a month to keep a prisoner equals 116 million quid. Add to that all all the money the solicitors make out of that no wonder the country is in a mess.
16 Friday, 31 July 2009 21:59
I like the way Garry asks for evidence disproving what the judge said, whereas the judge provided none whatsoever.

And on my blog, I have attempted to provide some of the evidence proving he's talking crap: http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/07/nobody-benefits-from-immigrants-on.html
15 Friday, 31 July 2009 13:26
Uponnothing
I'm trying not to be insulting here, which is difficult, so I'll just say this: firstly, he is not paid to say what people think and secondly, what 'people' think is not a reflection of whether it is the truth.

If you actually beleive that Asylum seekers / immigrants etc are given money, homes, cars etc and that they are partly to blame for the massive level of goverment debt then you seriously need to get better informed because you are a long way from reality.

Have you seen news that Asylum seekers are having their weekly allowance slashed from £40 odd quid to £30 odd quid. No wonder they all drive Ferraris when they're getting that kind of cash.

As for Garry, please at least try to write English. What evidence do you mean? Immigrants are not stuffed full of cash, which is what he is implying. Our immigration policy is the harshest it has ever been.

All you need do is open your eyes to the world, rather than the right-wing lying press.
14 Friday, 31 July 2009 13:15
Why berate the Learned Gentleman for voicing what many people think, but are gagged from saying so for fear of being branded "racist" in their views.

I agree with Judge Trigger and wish we had more like him on the bench.
13 Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:01
Also see:
Judge’s outburst at China drugs farmer
Jul 5 2008 by Chloe Griffiths, Liverpool Echo

A LIVERPOOL crown court judge launched an astonishing attack on UK immigration policy as he jailed a Chinese cannabis farmer.

Judge Ian Trigger said “substantial” numbers of immigrants were abusing the “easygoing and lax regime” operated in the UK.

And he said “hordes” of illegal newcomers were being brought to the UK by criminal gangs.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/07/05/judge-s-outburst-at-china-drugs-farmer-100252-21266731/
12 Thursday, 30 July 2009 11:14
http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/

Settled immigrants are also complaining about the waves of illegals flooding the UK, as it screws their businesses up.

ALL legal working taxpayers are supposed to support this communist/marxist Government, who have enforced common purpose on us, are traitors to this country & it's people.

The Judge is quite right and is very qualified to point out the failings that brings endless similar cases before him!
11 Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:54
"I feel it is important to point out that anybody claiming asylum is NOT ALLOWED TO WORK."

The above being true, does this mean that, as well as being bogus asylum seekers, those that are caught working are breaking the law and should be punished as the criminals they are?
10 Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:46
Well there you go, it looks like they do all come here for the weather.
9 Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:45
Considering he is a part time immigrtion judge i think he would know what hes talking about as opposed to those like you who sit on the sidelines complaining about every imperfection in everyones lives!

So far iv not seen anyone prove that hes actualy wrong, all you seem to do is make the statement with no evidence!

Remember now he is a part time immigration judge as i have said above, dont want you forgetting that when you think about his "qualifications" to making that statement!
8 Thursday, 30 July 2009 10:09
Trigger does have form. He likes to pontificate on subjects knowing it will be reported and get him a nice write-up from his Tory MP.
I've come across The Trig (not in the dock I hasten to add) and whilst he's not the biggest rentaquote gobshite on the circuit, he comes close.
It shows complete ignorance and is manna to The Mail and Migrationwatch and of course the BNP, all of whom quote extensively from this story.
7 Wednesday, 29 July 2009 18:16
Having worked for the Department of Work and Pensions, I feel it is important to point out that anybody claiming asylum is NOT ALLOWED TO WORK.

This is policy to stop economic migrants making bogus asylum claims (nevermind the economic desperation of people whose asylum claims are rejected.)

Furthermore the standard for legal immigration is now so high as to be farcical.

Take for instance the case of the professional Rugby League player Greg Eastwood. A New Zealand International playing in Australia, he had signed for Leeds this year, only to have his visa application refused because of a speeding conviction, in Australia.

If a speeding conviction makes a man unfit to enter this country, then I don't think we have to worry about dangerous criminals 'flooding in'.

Maybe someone should remind this Judge that justice is supposed to be blind, not merely wearing a bigot's blinkers.
6 Wednesday, 29 July 2009 14:43
Uponnothing
Actually, I am guilty of plagiarism there, as I copied that line word for word from the Daily Mail! I only added the dashes so that it flowed better in my sentence.

This just shows how language can be perceived differently when perhaps you have a certain expectation of what beliefs the writer holds.

I understand your point, and to extent I am of course naturally biased - I pick articles that shows the worst of the Daily Mail, not the best. In fairness though I barely have time to cover the worst articles, let alone the good / bad / indifferent.

As pointed out by Sophie, I never set out to defend the drug-dealer, I was merely pointing out that this judge seems to be making pretty dubious sweeping statements about society (or 'you people') that seem extraordinarily out of place. No professional should rant and rave a load of old rubbish at work, especially if they know they have a public platform.

Sophie, I would be interested in raising a complaint about Judge Trigger because he seems like a bigoted, ignorant shithead who I wouldn't want peoples' futures determined by.
5 Wednesday, 29 July 2009 14:27
Out of interest, does anyone know if it's possible to lodge a complaint that a judge is too biased to perform their job effectively? Are they even supposed to be impartial in the first place? Because I don't see how someone with opinions as strong as this can deliver justice in all cases. And I think juries are questioned before trials to see whether they have strong opinions that would prejudice their decision on the trial, so does the same go for judges?
4 Wednesday, 29 July 2009 14:18
@'not a Daily Mail reader': you're completely missing the point of Uponnothing's post. There's no argument about what the Jamaican guy did or didn't do or how it should be phrased. The point is that it's not OK to rant out inaccuracies about immigration, particularly if you are in a position of authority like Judge Ian Trigger.
3 Wednesday, 29 July 2009 13:58
'Jamaican drug minder - who disappeared from the notice of immigration authorities after claiming asylum'

For what it's worth, I would suggest that you are also guilty of presenting the facts to suit your political ethos.

One could re-phrase that statement as 'Jamaican convicted for possessing illegal drugs who avoided deportation after a failed asylum claim'. See, it's not hard.
2 Wednesday, 29 July 2009 12:23
I wonder if people abroad who stumble across the Daily Mail and decide to flick through it end up putting off their holiday to London.

Seriously, I swear, the Daily Mail is the worst advertisement for the country. When you read it there's a mixture of:
- wanting to end it all and slash your wrists as there's no point in living in such a cruel, violent world which is going to kill you anyway and plague you with disease;
- oh my god, i'm not gonna set foot in England as I'll get raped, mugged, attacked, harassed by lesbians and dogs who also want to maul me;
- if I do go and decided to go for a walk, I'll get swamped by horrible dark immigrants who'll try and take my stuff and also rape my girlfriend and clone my passport.

So for all their plasticky patriotism, the Daily Mail end up talking the country down big time.
1 Wednesday, 29 July 2009 11:47
Good god, I know. You know, sometimes I read the Daily Mail and just feel so utterly, utterly helpless, it just makes me want to scream. I wish I had the biggest baton in the world to go out and thump them all :(

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